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Can Brock Osweiler do what Trevor Siemian hasn’t been able to do in recent weeks? Move the chains and score points.

By Joe Mahoney
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NFL: Dallas Cowboys at Denver Broncos Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports

One of the measuring sticks that separates the good from the not-so-good QBs in the NFL is the ability to get first downs on third down, the ability to move the chains. One of the reasons our offense has been failing for most of the year is an inability to get first downs on third down.

Trevor Siemian has been bad at it this year and you can’t blame the running game. Denver is currently the second best team in the league at converting via the run on 3rd and short (1-3 yards needed) - having converted on 10 of 11 runs (90.9%). Trevor has thrown the ball 78 times on 3rd down this year and only 27 of those throws have resulted in a first down - 34.6%. You’ll see shortly how that compares to other NFL QBs, but it’s not great. So let’s look at the numbers.

In order to be able to see what Brock Osweiler has done in this department, the time-frame that I looked at was the start of the 2015 season until now. So we’ll get a comparative look at Brock, Trevor Siemian and anyone else who has thrown 20 or more 3rd down passes over the last two and a half seasons.

You’ll note that I didn’t look at or for 3rd down conversions by QB scramble. Conversion % is simply number of first downs divided by number of passing attempts (I also did not try to factor 3rd down sacks taken into this, although I could have).

Rank Player Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Sk Y/A 1D Conversion% Rate
1 Matt Barkley 29 50 58.0 363 1 3 3 7.3 25 50.0% 62.3
2 Tom Brady 228 351 65.0 3148 26 3 31 9 166 47.3% 114.7
3 Matt Ryan 229 349 65.6 2662 17 5 36 7.6 163 46.7% 98.8
4 Josh McCown 142 210 67.6 1896 15 6 26 9 98 46.7% 108
5 Drew Brees 268 397 67.5 3240 20 10 20 8.2 185 46.6% 98.6
6 Ryan Mallett 55 84 65.5 457 4 2 2 5.4 39 46.4% 85.3
7 Carson Palmer 231 373 61.9 2837 25 10 33 7.6 169 45.3% 96.6
8 Ben Roethlisberger 192 322 59.6 2811 21 10 19 8.7 145 45.0% 96.9
9 Aaron Rodgers 192 326 58.9 2632 27 8 50 8.1 144 44.2% 102.2
10 Andrew Luck 112 196 57.1 1311 12 6 26 6.7 86 43.9% 85.2
11 Russell Wilson 215 354 60.7 2710 19 6 35 7.7 155 43.8% 95.4
12 Jameis Winston 208 368 56.5 2621 16 16 28 7.1 160 43.5% 75.2
13 Kirk Cousins 247 385 64.2 2935 25 12 26 7.6 166 43.1% 96
14 Johnny Manziel 36 63 57.1 482 5 2 8 7.7 27 42.9% 94.8
15 Mike Glennon 30 42 71.4 304 2 2 3 7.2 18 42.9% 87.8
16 Carson Wentz 136 232 58.6 1660 11 7 17 7.2 99 42.7% 84
17 Dak Prescott 125 191 65.4 1370 9 4 13 7.2 80 41.9% 93.5
18 Deshaun Watson 25 43 58.1 227 3 1 8 5.3 18 41.9% 86.1
19 Tyrod Taylor 189 316 59.8 2254 18 8 42 7.1 131 41.5% 90.1
20 Matt Hasselbeck 40 70 57.1 463 2 3 6 6.6 29 41.4% 68.9
21 Matthew Stafford 219 368 59.5 2656 16 14 39 7.2 152 41.3% 80.4
22 Marcus Mariota 175 303 57.8 2335 15 8 24 7.7 125 41.3% 87.8
23 Philip Rivers 248 405 61.2 2891 17 15 39 7.1 167 41.2% 81.4
24 Andy Dalton 182 307 59.3 2353 18 10 34 7.7 126 41.0% 89.4
25 Matt Moore 30 52 57.7 405 6 2 2 7.8 21 40.4% 105
26 Jay Cutler 143 232 61.6 1787 9 3 30 7.7 92 39.7% 93.1
27 Teddy Bridgewater 88 132 66.7 1043 7 3 17 7.9 52 39.4% 98.8
28 Cam Newton 180 353 51.0 2584 23 15 38 7.3 138 39.1% 79.1
29 Brock Osweiler 131 221 59.3 1349 6 6 21 6.1 86 38.9% 74.7
30 Alex Smith 201 321 62.6 2109 7 5 38 6.6 123 38.3% 82.4
31 Case Keenum 113 201 56.2 1233 6 3 19 6.1 77 38.3% 78.2
32 Trevor Siemian 118 204 57.8 1483 13 8 19 7.3 78 38.2% 85.5
33 Blake Bortles 202 387 52.2 2238 13 16 48 5.8 147 38.0% 63.6
34 Ryan Fitzpatrick 156 277 56.3 1764 14 10 17 6.4 105 37.9% 77.4
35 Sam Bradford 194 314 61.8 1820 13 5 27 5.8 119 37.9% 84.9
36 Derek Carr 222 380 58.4 2634 17 8 24 6.9 144 37.9% 85.8
37 Brian Hoyer 126 214 58.9 1383 9 2 20 6.5 81 37.9% 88.2
38 Eli Manning 232 401 57.9 2596 21 12 28 6.5 149 37.2% 82.3
39 Joe Flacco 206 346 59.5 2271 11 7 41 6.6 125 36.1% 81.2
40 Jacoby Brissett 50 92 54.3 568 3 1 8 6.2 33 35.9% 79.4
41 Jared Goff 82 135 60.7 885 7 3 17 6.6 48 35.6% 88
42 Cody Kessler 36 62 58.1 347 1 2 9 5.6 21 33.9% 65.7
43 Matt Cassel 53 89 59.6 600 3 1 11 6.7 30 33.7% 86.4
44 Ryan Tannehill 160 279 57.3 1944 12 8 24 7 94 33.7% 81.3
45 Peyton Manning 54 99 54.5 566 4 8 6 5.7 32 32.3% 51.2
46 Colin Kaepernick 88 164 53.7 1026 6 3 27 6.3 53 32.3% 77.4
47 DeShone Kizer 25 56 44.6 310 0 4 4 5.5 15 26.8% 32.6
48 Zach Mettenberger 24 45 53.3 207 1 3 4 4.6 11 24.4% 45.3
49 Blaine Gabbert 74 130 56.9 678 5 4 14 5.2 31 23.8% 71.3
50 Nick Foles 62 136 45.6 694 5 5 6 5.1 31 22.8% 58.3

Of the QBs who are full-time starters, Tom Brady (47.3%) has been the best at this while Ryan Tannehill (33.7%) has been the worst. So out of the 52 QBs who qualified (min 50 attempts) Brock was 29th in conversion% (38.9%) while Trevor has been just slightly worse over the course of his career at 38.2% (32nd ranked). My apologies to those who read this earlier when I had the wrong table in this piece in the first slot.

That’s the good news.

The bad news, if you are hoping Brock can improve the offense greatly, is that Brock is ranked 41st of 50 in terms of passer rating on 3rd down (74.7) - slightly better than Blake Bortles. Trevor actually ranks 24th in 3rd down passer rating despite faring poorly in 2017 (85.5). So let’s break this down further into yards needed to gain on third down.

Converting via the pass on 3rd and short (1-3 yards) 2015 to present

Again I did not include sacks, scrambles or QB sneaks into this, but here are the guys who have done the best at converting third and short via the pass. I used 20 attempts as the minimum again for each sectional breakdown.

Rank Player Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Sk Yds Y/A 1D Conversion % Rate
1 Ryan Mallett 16 21 76.2 137 2 0 0 0 6.5 16 76.2% 124.5
2 Matt Ryan 50 68 73.5 535 10 0 8 -46 7.9 48 70.6% 135.7
3 Dak Prescott 23 33 69.7 276 3 1 1 -3 8.4 23 69.7% 112.7
4 Carson Palmer 59 81 72.8 626 10 0 4 -30 7.7 55 67.9% 134.6
5 Sam Bradford 38 53 71.7 313 6 1 5 -40 5.9 35 66.0% 116.3
6 Josh McCown 33 47 70.2 422 7 0 4 -22 9 31 66.0% 137.6
7 Carson Wentz 25 38 65.8 230 3 1 1 -2 6.1 25 65.8% 97.5
8 Ryan Tannehill 28 43 65.1 365 5 1 0 0 8.5 28 65.1% 120.8
9 Tom Brady 50 73 68.5 566 6 1 5 -32 7.8 47 64.4% 113.2
10 Drew Brees 55 81 67.9 536 8 2 1 -9 6.6 51 63.0% 108.9
11 Jared Goff 15 24 62.5 185 3 1 2 -8 7.7 15 62.5% 108.5
12 Ben Roethlisberger 53 82 64.6 718 10 0 5 -28 8.8 51 62.2% 132.0
13 Jameis Winston 47 73 64.4 558 9 2 4 -17 7.6 45 61.6% 115.8
14 Case Keenum 27 39 69.2 319 3 0 2 -11 8.2 24 61.5% 119.5
15 Russell Wilson 49 75 65.3 516 5 0 4 -32 6.9 46 61.3% 107.4
16 Teddy Bridgewater 16 25 64 230 1 0 1 -3 9.2 15 60.0% 107.1
17 Colin Kaepernick 20 34 58.8 266 3 1 2 -16 7.8 20 58.8% 100.9
18 Matthew Stafford 56 84 66.7 528 4 3 4 -31 6.3 49 58.3% 84.8
19 Brian Hoyer 26 43 60.5 248 4 1 2 -18 5.8 25 58.1% 97.8
20 Blake Bortles 47 73 64.4 395 2 0 6 -54 5.4 42 57.5% 87.4
21 Jay Cutler 31 52 59.6 467 4 3 3 -18 9 29 55.8% 90.8
22 Tyrod Taylor 36 56 64.3 256 6 2 9 -54 4.6 31 55.4% 95.5
23 Aaron Rodgers 48 78 61.5 651 10 1 3 -24 8.3 43 55.1% 122.4
24 Andrew Luck 29 51 56.9 202 5 2 9 -55 4 28 54.9% 82.3
25 Kirk Cousins 46 78 59 548 6 1 4 -35 7 42 53.8% 100.8
26 Philip Rivers 43 75 57.3 343 3 3 3 -23 4.6 40 53.3% 65.6
27 Alex Smith 33 53 62.3 267 2 1 4 -28 5 28 52.8% 79.7
28 Eli Manning 50 89 56.2 632 10 2 2 -8 7.1 47 52.8% 106.6
29 Cam Newton 33 62 53.2 500 4 1 5 -26 8.1 32 51.6% 94.8
30 Trevor Siemian 17 34 50 208 4 1 5 -25 6.1 17 50.0% 96.2
31 Marcus Mariota 35 66 53 459 4 3 4 -16 7 33 50.0% 76.5
32 Brock Osweiler 22 38 57.9 186 1 3 4 -43 4.9 19 50.0% 46.6
33 Andy Dalton 34 65 52.3 350 5 2 4 -32 5.4 32 49.2% 80.9
34 Derek Carr 39 70 55.7 350 5 2 2 -12 5 34 48.6% 81.3
35 Joe Flacco 42 67 62.7 404 4 0 3 -33 6 32 47.8% 99.3
36 Ryan Fitzpatrick 23 44 52.3 211 4 2 1 -12 4.8 20 45.5% 77.0

I was not surprised to see Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer and Sam Bradford near the top here, but I was surprised to see Dak Prescott given how poorly he has fared overall at converting on 3rd down. Trevor (30th) and Brock (32nd) are near the bottom of the 36 qualifying QBs.

The range (among full-time starters) here is a lot larger than the overall range with Matt Ryan converting at 70.6% over this time frame on 3rd and short and Ryan Fitzpatrick converting at 45.5%. I was also surprised to see how poor Derek Carr has been at this.

Converting via the pass on 3rd and medium (4-6 yards) 2015 to present

Rank Player Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Sk Yds Y/A 1D Conversion % Rate
1 Tom Brady 60 91 65.9 883 9 1 6 -31 9.7 55 60.4% 125.8
2 Carson Wentz 38 59 64.4 417 4 1 5 -29 7.1 35 59.3% 100.7
3 Kirk Cousins 82 122 67.2 970 11 5 11 -78 8 69 56.6% 104.2
4 Matt Ryan 67 100 67 707 2 2 9 -76 7.1 56 56.0% 85.7
5 Drew Brees 74 108 68.5 971 6 1 8 -52 9 60 55.6% 111.3
6 Alex Smith 61 90 67.8 655 2 0 12 -76 7.3 48 53.3% 96.3
7 Dak Prescott 40 63 63.5 424 2 0 4 -24 6.7 33 52.4% 93.6
8 Andy Dalton 51 80 63.7 577 6 3 8 -43 7.2 41 51.3% 94.6
9 Matthew Stafford 51 88 58 548 4 5 12 -82 6.2 45 51.1% 67.8
10 Brian Hoyer 29 53 54.7 291 2 1 5 -32 5.5 27 50.9% 75.3
11 Josh McCown 35 55 63.6 450 3 3 5 -40 8.2 28 50.9% 84.7
12 Brock Osweiler 40 69 58 427 1 1 3 -24 6.2 35 50.7% 75.0
13 Aaron Rodgers 51 87 58.6 588 10 4 10 -78 6.8 44 50.6% 98.3
14 Andrew Luck 28 46 60.9 250 4 1 2 -5 5.4 23 50.0% 95.4
15 Russell Wilson 58 102 56.9 588 5 2 10 -45 5.8 50 49.0% 81.7
16 Eli Manning 61 107 57 655 9 4 13 -90 6.1 52 48.6% 87.6
17 Philip Rivers 69 103 67 763 1 1 6 -46 7.4 50 48.5% 88.0
18 Jared Goff 20 31 64.5 252 2 0 2 -10 8.1 15 48.4% 111.2
19 Marcus Mariota 49 85 57.6 669 7 2 6 -37 7.9 41 48.2% 100.6
20 Carson Palmer 48 85 56.5 504 5 4 13 -94 5.9 40 47.1% 73.8
21 Jameis Winston 55 107 51.4 590 4 3 9 -61 5.5 50 46.7% 68.7
22 Ryan Fitzpatrick 45 73 61.6 487 3 1 7 -43 6.7 34 46.6% 89.2
23 Sam Bradford 51 91 56 434 4 1 6 -61 4.8 42 46.2% 78.7
24 Joe Flacco 64 112 57.1 693 3 4 11 -169 6.2 51 45.5% 69.5
25 Matt Moore 11 20 55 154 1 1 0 0 7.7 9 45.0% 75.8
26 Blake Bortles 58 118 49.2 684 7 5 14 -103 5.8 52 44.1% 69.3
27 Derek Carr 51 99 51.5 715 4 2 5 -30 7.2 43 43.4% 80.2
28 Cam Newton 45 91 49.5 575 9 5 5 -42 6.3 39 42.9% 79.7
29 Ben Roethlisberger 53 101 52.5 736 8 5 3 -27 7.3 43 42.6% 82.0
30 Matt Cassel 19 33 57.6 159 2 0 1 -8 4.8 14 42.4% 90.3
31 Blaine Gabbert 14 26 53.8 180 2 0 3 -9 6.9 11 42.3% 101.4
32 Tyrod Taylor 42 81 51.9 477 4 0 13 -83 5.9 34 42.0% 86.3
33 Case Keenum 34 68 50 297 1 1 7 -52 4.4 28 41.2% 60.7
34 Jay Cutler 35 60 58.3 384 3 0 8 -39 6.4 24 40.0% 94.0
35 Jacoby Brissett 16 30 53.3 187 1 1 1 -7 6.2 12 40.0% 69.7
36 Peyton Manning 16 28 57.1 116 1 1 1 -8 4.1 11 39.3% 64.0
37 Matt Hasselbeck 9 23 39.1 153 1 1 4 -29 6.7 9 39.1% 58.8
38 Trevor Siemian 28 52 53.8 339 6 1 3 -29 6.5 20 38.5% 104.6
39 Nick Foles 18 43 41.9 268 4 0 4 -31 6.2 15 34.9% 93.9
40 Teddy Bridgewater 20 35 57.1 208 4 1 4 -44 5.9 12 34.3% 100.7
41 Ryan Tannehill 41 80 51.2 407 5 2 10 -76 5.1 26 32.5% 76.4
42 Colin Kaepernick 14 35 40 156 3 0 7 -41 4.5 11 31.4% 82.6

No surprise that Tom Brady is the class of the league here (60.4%). I was pleasantly surprised to find Brock ranked 12th here (although he is 33rd if you go by passer rating). Trevor was near the bottom ranking 38th of 42 qualifiers in terms of conversion rate but he was 4th if you sort by passer rating. Colin Kaepernick was the worst among QBs who have thrown 20 or more passing attempts on 3rd and medium over this time frame converting on only 31.4% of his attempts.

Converting via the pass on 3rd and long (7 or more needed) 2015 to present

Ok so onto the most difficult thing for a QB to do - move the chains on 3rd and long. The Bronco offense has not been good at this since 2013, but we need to define what “good” means. See the table.

Rank Player Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Sk Yds Y/A 1D Conversion % Rate
1 Cody Kessler 20 38 52.6% 268 1 0 1 -5 5.7 16 42.1% 87.9
2 Mitch Trubisky 13 18 72.2% 126 2 1 3 -13 5.7 7 38.9% 79.0
3 Tony Romo 11 13 84.6% 78 0 1 1 -12 4.1 5 38.5% 36.7
4 Matt Hasselbeck 21 34 61.8% 251 1 2 2 -16 9.7 13 38.2% 77.6
5 Ben Roethlisberger 86 139 61.9% 1066 7 7 9 -37 6.7 51 36.7% 72.0
6 Drew Brees 139 208 66.8% 1707 10 6 16 -110 8.2 74 35.6% 90.4
7 Johnny Manziel 21 37 56.8% 260 0 2 1 -11 7.6 13 35.1% 60.9
8 Derek Carr 132 211 62.6% 1733 6 7 11 -83 8.3 74 35.1% 88.1
9 Brian Hoyer 71 118 60.2% 936 3 6 11 -84 7.9 41 34.7% 74.0
10 Jameis Winston 106 188 56.4% 1473 3 11 15 -116 7.8 65 34.6% 62.7
11 Matthew Stafford 112 196 57.1% 1569 8 4 17 -125 7.4 67 34.2% 89.9
12 Blake Bortles 97 196 49.5% 1509 10 9 28 -243 7.5 67 34.2% 73.9
13 Ryan Tannehill 91 156 58.3% 1159 4 11 28 -145 5.9 53 34.0% 51.4
14 Philip Rivers 136 227 59.9% 1785 13 11 30 -197 7.9 77 33.9% 83.7
15 Drew Stanton 5 15 33.3% 79 0 1 4 -34 3.3 5 33.3% 29.7
16 Trevor Siemian 73 118 61.9% 936 2 0 19 -139 7.8 39 33.1% 93.6
17 Tom Brady 118 187 63.1% 1431 7 6 19 -117 8.6 61 32.6% 88.2
18 Matt Ryan 112 181 61.9% 1420 5 3 19 -137 7.8 59 32.6% 88.6
19 Andrew Luck 55 99 55.6% 736 4 2 14 -91 6.5 32 32.3% 83.8
20 Russell Wilson 108 177 61.0% 1393 7 3 37 -281 8.7 57 32.2% 93.0
21 Ryan Mallett 31 47 66.0% 303 2 0 6 -47 5.9 15 31.9% 85.7
22 Jimmy Clausen 13 22 59.1% 147 1 0 2 -13 12.3 7 31.8% 143.4
23 Landry Jones 12 22 54.5% 138 0 0 5 -37 6 7 31.8% 77.8
24 C.J. Beathard 9 19 47.4% 127 0 1 5 -42 6.7 6 31.6% 56.3
25 Kevin Hogan 2 16 12.5% 120 2 2 4 -32 5.5 5 31.3% 62.7
26 Carson Palmer 124 207 59.9% 1699 11 1 20 -120 9.1 64 30.9% 109.9
27 Alex Smith 107 178 60.1% 1417 8 6 11 -92 7.7 55 30.9% 88.5
28 Jay Cutler 77 120 64.2% 981 5 3 17 -100 9.7 37 30.8% 104.4
29 Bryce Petty 16 26 61.5% 179 1 2 8 -59 4.7 8 30.8% 52.4
30 Matt Moore 14 26 53.8% 173 1 0 6 -43 9.6 8 30.8% 120.8
31 Brock Osweiler 69 114 60.5% 859 3 3 15 -105 8.7 35 30.7% 82.0
32 Joe Flacco 100 167 59.9% 1207 4 3 14 -110 7.9 51 30.5% 85.6
33 Sam Bradford 105 170 61.8% 1357 3 5 11 -78 9.8 51 30.0% 86.5
34 Tyrod Taylor 103 167 61.7% 1309 2 6 13 -90 6.4 50 29.9% 68.9
35 EJ Manuel 9 24 37.5% 166 2 1 2 -8 6.4 7 29.2% 83.2
36 Andy Dalton 97 162 59.9% 1187 3 4 22 -127 6.7 47 29.0% 76.2
37 Cam Newton 102 200 51.0% 1580 8 6 23 -143 8.1 58 29.0% 84.1
38 Carson Wentz 73 135 54.1% 1013 4 5 11 -75 7.5 39 28.9% 72.9
39 Eli Manning 121 205 59.0% 1606 9 4 21 -193 9.1 59 28.8% 98.3
40 Josh McCown 70 101 69.3% 844 3 0 13 -102 7.2 29 28.7% 90.5
41 Kirk Cousins 119 185 64.3% 1426 7 5 22 -161 8.8 53 28.6% 90.2
42 Matt Cassel 32 47 68.1% 304 2 2 6 -38 8.2 13 27.7% 79.1
43 Marcus Mariota 91 152 59.9% 1073 3 3 16 -113 6.3 42 27.6% 78.4
44 Matt Barkley 17 26 65.4% 217 1 1 2 -12 8.3 7 26.9% 84.9
45 Case Keenum 52 94 55.3% 605 2 2 12 -97 8.4 25 26.6% 95.0
46 Colin Kaepernick 54 95 56.8% 617 2 2 10 -66 6.6 25 26.3% 73.8
47 Aaron Rodgers 93 161 57.8% 1174 4 3 27 -224 7 42 26.1% 81.8
48 Robert Griffin 14 23 60.9% 161 1 0 1 -4 12.4 6 26.1% 143.9
49 Mike Glennon 15 23 65.2% 152 0 0 3 -19 9.5 6 26.1% 93.8
50 Blaine Gabbert 50 86 58.1% 604 0 2 18 -132 6.4 22 25.6% 67.2
51 Dak Prescott 62 95 65.3% 670 4 3 8 -48 7.1 24 25.3% 86.7
52 Ryan Fitzpatrick 88 160 55.0% 1172 2 5 14 -112 7.5 40 25.0% 72.9
53 A.J. McCarron 10 16 62.5% 123 0 0 2 -19 8.2 4 25.0% 80.7
54 Jimmy Garoppolo 9 12 75.0% 75 0 0 0 0 12.5 3 25.0% 118.8
55 Peyton Manning 33 58 56.9% 407 1 0 9 -57 8.7 14 24.1% 102.0
56 DeShone Kizer 18 38 47.4% 269 0 1 4 -18 7.1 9 23.7% 60.1
57 Teddy Bridgewater 52 72 72.2% 422 3 5 5 -21 7.3 17 23.6% 61.1
58 Deshaun Watson 11 22 50.0% 141 1 2 0 0 7.1 5 22.7% 54.4
59 Jared Goff 47 80 58.8% 448 2 2 13 -114 5.6 18 22.5% 72.3
60 Jacoby Brissett 28 51 54.9% 332 0 5 1 -7 4.3 11 21.6% 32.6
61 Brandon Weeden 15 21 71.4% 137 0 3 2 -16 5.5 4 19.0% 32.0
62 Nick Foles 37 78 47.4% 429 2 3 8 -61 5 14 17.9% 64.5
63 Zach Mettenberger 14 25 56.0% 168 1 0 3 -27 8 4 16.0% 110.8
64 Kellen Moore 11 20 55.0% 136 0 2 3 -27 5.9 3 15.0% 44.8
65 Austin Davis 8 15 53.3% 100 1 0 1 -14 25 2 13.3% 156.3
66 Mark Sanchez 11 19 57.9% 135 1 1 3 -19 6.1 2 10.5% 73.1
67 Paxton Lynch 7 12 58.3% 72 0 0 1 0 6 1 8.3% 75.7

I extended this out because I wanted to show where Paxton Lynch ranks in his very limited playing time. There are also some interesting guys down near the bottom of the list. Brock is ranked 31st in conversion % (30.7%) while Trevor is much better at 16th (33.1%).

The range (for starting QBs) goes from Ben Roethlisberger (36.7%) to Jared Goff (25.0%) - although Goff was horrible at this last year and has been better this year. Note that Mitch Trubisky has done really well at this during his brief career (admittedly in limited attempts) and that Dak Prescott and Ryan Fitzpatrick have been horrible at converting on 3rd and long during this timeframe. Using passer rating Trevor is 13th and Brock is 33rd. Jameis Winston and Ryan Tannehill also have been really bad on 3rd and long over this time period.

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